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  • #137722

    peterb72
    Participant

    Hi Jane

    I know exactly what you mean….when I was told I was not eligible for the trial because my screening results were better than expected and I was therefore not ‘high risk enough’, part of me was pleased (of course), but another part of me was disappointed as I knew this trial represents an opportunity to get a drug that could make a difference. Knowing it is not an open-ended trial makes this even more uncertain, i.e. there is a real danger that I (and others) can ‘miss the boat’ as the trial will of course close at some point. So I know exactly what you mean about the uncertainty.

    The trial won’t definitely close at the end of the year – there is no fixed date – it will depend how quickly it fills up. My consultant just thought – based on an educated guess I imagine – that it would close at around the end of the year. Of course it could be sooner (unlikely) or later (likely) than that.

    Yes, would definitely be good to keep in touch with the trial. I’ll keep you posted with any developments (I next see my consultant in June too), so please do keep me posted with any news too.

    Thanks & best wishes

    Peter

     

    #137713

    peterb72
    Participant

    Hi Jane

    Yes a disappointment re the trial but we’ll see how it goes throughout this year. To answer your questions:

    Yes I believe a PP level of 30 or more is needed to qualify. Also, as part of the screening, I believe they test your ‘light chains’ in your blood (this was not something that my normal monitoring had tested previously). My result was apparently a ‘normal ratio’ (positive news) but again to qualify for the trial you needed to have an ‘abnormal ratio’. In essence they are saying, based on the screening results, I am ‘not high-risk enough’ to qualify for the trial. This despite the fact that my consultant thought I was ‘high risk enough’ before she put me through the screening. But the hospital has no influence/control over the decision of the screening result (this I believe is done centrally in Switzerland). So whilst disappointing, there are positives in the sense that I am not as ‘high risk’ as thought. But I will continue to be monitored throughout this year and if my consultant thinks it is worth ‘another go’ at the screening later in the year then she will put me through it again.

    I think (but not certain) that there are about 150 places available on this trial….whilst this doesn’t seem many, I believe they are not ‘recruiting’ as quickly as first thought as a lot of people (like me) are failing to get through the very strict screening criteria. My consultant thinks they will continue to recruit until the end of 2018.

    As for the question of what happens – if you get on the trial and get the drug (rather than just being on the ‘control arm’) – at the end of 3 years, then I believe this will be the end of treatment so to speak and you will then be monitored. This is really a step into the unknown…they seem pretty confident that the drug will give a good response during the 3 years and keep the disease at bay, but it is far less known what happens when the trial stops – will you continue to benefit from the good effect of the 3 years, or will the disease come back more aggressively and be more difficult to treat? Nobody knows the answer to that, hence the trial, so it really is a step into the unknown.

    I think if you knew (which none of us do) that the disease was going to become active in the next 3 years then the trial would be the way to go, as I think the drug will keep it at bay. But if you thought it wasn’t going to become active in the next 3 years then possibly the trial is not the way to go as it’s unknown what effect it will have longer term. Of course this drug is not licensed in the UK for this treatment stage, and even if the trial proves to be a success, then it’s going to be at least 5 – 10 years I guess before it becomes licensed as the trial outcomes will need to be reviewed for a period after the trial ends.

    All of this is just me guessing really – it really is a difficult position to be in. After much deliberation with my wife I decided to go for the trial, but didn’t get on it. I guess you & your husband need to make a decision based on your gut feeling, as there is not much else to go on!

    Let me know how you get on….

    Thanks

    Peter

    #137680

    peterb72
    Participant

    Hi Jane

    Since last posting I have been through the trial ‘screening’ but was then deemed not eligible as my PP level was 25 (this despite my previous readings during normal monitoring being 30). So it was a surprise to hear that the screening test showed a lower level. Which is positive news I guess, but disappointing in terms of the trial as it meant I didn’t meet the criteria. However, my consultant has said I will continue to be monitored and if my levels have increased again later in the year then they may try to put me through the screening again – but who knows. So I’m a bit in limbo really. I think you are right to go for it for your husband – the screening is quite intensive for a couple of weeks (MRI, CT scan, blood/urine tests, bone marrow biopsy etc) but worth it if you get on the trial.

    Let me know how you get on.

    Thanks

    Peter

     

    #137419

    peterb72
    Participant

    Hi…like you I’m unsure about any trial as I’m not sure about having treatment when I don’t necessarily need it. It will be a difficult decision once I have to make it.

    I’ll keep you posted with any developments….likewise please keep me posted about what you decide.

    Thanks!

    #137398

    peterb72
    Participant

    Hi Cygnet

    Which hospital are you at?

    I’m still waiting on further details (still waiting to see consultant) so I don’t know yet about whether I’ll be eligible to be considered for the trial.

    Are you going on the trial/has your consultant suggested you do so? It’s probably a difficult decision…have you smouldered for long or is it quite new? What age bracket are you in? I’m in my 40s and was diagnosed last year….the trial sounds promising but of course nobody knows the answers!

    Best wishes

    Peter

    #136758

    peterb72
    Participant

    Hi Jane

    Many thanks for your reply. I’m pleased to hear that your husband is considered low risk and is still smouldering.

    Once I get some more details about any potential trial then I’ll let you know – at the moment I don’t have any details as it’s only something that has been mentioned to me as a possibility. My PP level is currently 30 so maybe that is why it has been mentioned – what is your husband’s PP level?

    Thanks again & I’ll keep you posted once I hear any more.

    Peter

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