Light chains ratio question

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    hoffgrad
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    A newbie here. Was diagnosed with MGUS 4 years ago. Educated myself on it as I need to fully underStand any health issue I have. Been monitored via GP’s as we all do with MGUS. My health has never been great and in 2013 I was first of all told I had CFS/ME which I know is an umbrella term for a list of symptoms. It was purely by chance that out of frustration I paid for a one off consultation with an M.E specialist who is slso an immunologist. It was him who requested my GP run immunoglobulin tests. This was 2018 and I’d been very run down for 5 years by this time. IGm was raised showing positive for a paraprotein but it was only fractionally above range. Light chains were normal. This past 6 months I’ve had new symptoms of leg/wrist/hip pain, drenching night sweats, insomnia, itching snd breathlessness. Just had another set of screening blood tests and whilst the IGm is still the same, my light chain ration reading is 1.91. In Feb this year it was 1.51. My GP at this new surgery I’d wonderful but she’s away quite a lot. Another gp spoke with me and because I was concerned due to symptoms she’s referring me to a haematologist but she says my readings were normal. How can an elevated light chain ratio be ‘normal?
    I’ve read every bit of medical information you can imagine but can’t find anything to answer my question. My GP is out of her depth but she tells me the result is normal.

    Anyone help?

    #147048

    kh0305
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    Hi hoffgrad,

    I would definitely agree that 1.91 is above the normal light chain ratio from my understanding. I’m pleased to hear that you have been referred to a haematologist and hope the appointment comes through soon so they can look properly at your results and hopefully give you some more definitive information and plans to move forward. I would definitely keep pushing for answers.
    Let us know how the appointment goes xx

    #147165

    mattl
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    Hello hoffgrad,

    I have MGUS light chains in my bone marrow which has caused my amyloidosis.

    perhaps you can get a referral to the National Amyloidosis Centre at the Royal Free hospital, Hampstead Heath for tests and scans.

    I was referred there by a cardiac specialist at my local hospital because I was diagnosed with cardiac Amyloidosis.

    the chemotherapy kills the bad light chains and stops them entering the blood stream in the first place.

    I don`t know if this would be of any relevance to your condition, but I thought it may be an avenue to explore?

    regards

    matt

    #147167

    hoffgrad
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    Hi Matt

    Thank you so much for this.

    I wonder if I should be on this forum as I do not have Myeloma (that I know about), but the whole MGUS thing is something I feel I need to keep on top of. I have a good GP but she is not a specialist and so whilst she has referred me to a haematologist in my area, I am waiting forever for an appointment and… not being negative, I don’t hold out much hope. Warwick hospital, is understaffed and struggling. Specialists who visit there for outpatients appointments, are overstretched. It’s at times like this I wish I could afford private but sadly that is not at all possible.

    I have read about Amyloidosis… I’m sorry you have this… but don’t think I have it. To be honest though, this is an area of health that even an intelligent lay person like me, finds totally confusing. But I feel that my diagnosis of CFS/fibromyalgia (from 2014) is really something that is related to my later diagnosis of MGUS (2018). It just doesn’t make sense to me that I am so exhausted and in so much pain at times when other blood tests have me as ‘normal’ and within range.

    I wonder if it would be possible to be referred to the hospital you mention, when I live in Stratford Upon Avon. It’s so frustrating. The whole healthcare system seems to be a postcode lottery.

    Can I ask you how you started your MGUS/amyloidosis journey? How did you come to be diagnosed/tested? It’s not a routine test and it was just by chance for me that I had seen an immunologist (a private one off consultation) that he wrote to my GP to ask her to test my immunologlobulins. I am definitely going to take a look online at the hospital you mention but you know what it’s like, I don’t want to be pushy if I am still within range and stable. Whatever stable is, with this condition.

    #147182

    mulberry
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    Hi Hoffgrad

    Firstly this forum is for anyone who has, or thinks they may have, any of the monoclonal gammopathies, from MGUS through to myeloma to plasma cell leukaemia.

    Many of us have had to argue for initial testing, these diseases are not well known by GPs, who will typically only come across one or two cases in their careers, so it’s not uncommon for people to have repeated GP appointments before being referred to haematology. Many of us have had to become quite assertive and have had to be self advocates.

    It is possible for MGUS to precede other conditions, including chronic lymphocytic leukaemia (which might tie in with the night sweats which are less characteristic of myeloma) and Waldenstroms Macroglobulinemia which is a type of lymphoma (which would tie in with IgM involvement, which is rare in myeloma).

    Any results outside normal limits are by definition “not normal” and should be followed up. However I hope its reassuring that active disease usually involves levels very significantly outside normal levels.

    Although it should not be necessary, some people have resorted to having an initial private haematology appointment if they feel they are getting nowhere with their GP. If you need subsequent treatment, patients can slot back into NHS.

    #147183

    hoffgrad
    Participant

    Mulberry

    One of the reasons I am slightly reluctant to join ‘any’ forums online… on any topic at all… is due to some people being assumptive. Your message reads as if I haven’t a clue about MGUS or in fact on how to navigate my way though the system. I am a very intelligent woman and a trained therapist so I do know how to manage myself. I also am extremely clued up on MGUS being a precursor to many other conditions.

    Thank you.

    #147187

    mattl
    Participant

    hello Hoffgrad,

    ill keep it short, one night i went to bed, couldnt breathe properly, after 4 hours of gasping for breath i called an ambulance. taken to local A&E, doctors said chest infection, pneumonia of lungs youll be fixed in 4 days. Next day same doctor came to me and said you have a serious heart problem. after many more scans the heart specialist referred me to NAC. Cant thank them enough for what they`ve done for me. 3 months from original A&E call to be diagnosed and treatment starting.

    #148099

    biffboff
    Participant

    Hi Mulberry, Reading your gentle post has really helped me – I’m one of those wondering if I have MM. It’s good to feel welcome here.

    #148104

    mulberry
    Participant

    Biffboff, you are very welcome.
    Do ask any questions, we know how challenging it is when the possibility of blood cancer related conditions are raised.

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