STC – the alternatives?

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  • #137951

    christineh
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    Hi everyone

    I have undergone the initial VCD treatment to get my pp levels down and responded really well – only needed 6 of the planned 8 treatments. This was a real bonus as I was keen to get off the steroids – the weight I’ve put on! (though a lot of that will also be down to sapped energy levels)

    Anyway, because I’m 55 my healthcare team have said that the next “natural” step would be STC. And I’m scared. If I don’t go through with this, what are the alternative treatments and is there anyone out there who can tell me how their MM has behaved if they don’t have STC?

    Many thanks and much love to you all.

    Christine

    #137955

    gcoulter
    Participant

    Hi

    My wife is 18 months past her stem cell treatment and we’re really glad she went through it.
    She was 51 at the time, and like you responded well to the initial treatment.
    We were encouraged by this as we were told the stem cell tends to be more effective in those people who respond well to the initial treatment.
    Like you she was hesitant wondering if it would be worth it, after all she had read and been told.
    In then end she was really glad she did. She found it easier than the initial treatment, as she found it very heard at times, dealing with the neurophy and the effect of the steriods etc.
    Her PP levels haven’t moved, and fingers crossed they stay that way for a while longer.

    Hope this helps and best wishes

    Graham

    #137956

    davidainsdale
    Participant

    Hi Christine

    They say that with myeloma everyone is different, which certainly seems to be true.

    I was diagnosed at 59 and had SCT a year later and have now been drug free for four years. I felt that this was the right choice for me.

    That said, it was not easy and expect to feel tired for sometime afterwards. It seems that the younger an dfitter you are going in the quicker you recover afterwards.

    Hope this helps.
    David

    #137989

    christineh
    Participant

    Hi Graham, David

    Thank you both so much for taking the time to reply. I’m so pleased to hear that the reponses to treatment have been brilliant and long may they remain that way!

    Over the weekend I made the decision to go ahead with STC, and the process all starts next week! Probably better that way, otherwise it would just be that cloud hanging over me.

    Thank you again – all the best,

    Christine

    #137990

    peterl
    Participant

    Hello Christine,

    Your post concerning whether or not to undergo an SCT is very understandable, especially since you have such good results from your early treatments. Can I suggest that you will get very few posts back from MM patients who have not opted for the SCT route, but have had alternative ‘successful drug treatments’ simply because obviously your medical team are the best people to
    advise you regarding your options, and no one would want to disagree with what they’ve said. However for what it’s worth — I was diagnosed (66 Yrs) with this miserable disease (<3 years ago), and was advised against having an SCT. The main reason being the threat of looming prostate cancer. It was considered that if this was confirmed (and it was!) having an SCT would just interfere with the prostate treatment, and take too much out of my already depleted immune system. So I commenced MM drug therapy and whilst it’s had it’s moments and been difficult at times, I have also enjoyed fairly long periods of remission.

    The problem with MM planning is that the individual’s responses to SCT/non-SCTs is variable. So the mere fact that I’ve had a ‘reasonable time’ just on novel drugs, doesn’t mean that you will. And this obviously applies to SCTs as well. I can’t remember the actual numbers, but I think there’s about 3000 new MM cases diagnosed each year, so my one post and the few from patients who have had really good SCT experiences need to be taken with some caution I suggest. So what do you rely on? Obviously speak to your consultant and ascertain the risks etc of the SCT route, and discuss the possible side effects of long term drug use (which may get worse as time goes on?). This hopefully will put your mind at rest regarding the SCT. I’ve also attached a link (from the Myeloma Beacon Site) that summarises a study done (covering patients 2006 to 2014) by the Mayo Clinic, who investigated two large cohort groups – one being treated just with drugs (VTR) and one being treated with drugs after undergoing SCTs (within 12 months of their diagnosis). The question of whether or not ‘an SCT’ is obviously important, but there’s also the question of survival rates. The study concludes that average (median) survival for the non SCT group is 110 months (9 years), providing the patient first relapsed late. And for the SCT group: 122 months (10 years) again for SCT patients who never experienced an early relapse. Survival seems to DEPEND upon how long the patient took to first relapse — and damaging high risk chromosomal abnormalities like del(17p), t(4:14, 14:16 and 14:20) translocations. It’s probably a lot to read, but as I said it’s difficult to judge what to do based on my single post, and a few others, so we’re only left with the bigger picture.

    http://myelomabeacon.org/news/2016/05/27/myeloma-morning-early-relapse-survival-ninlaro-kyprolis-europe/

    Peter. P.S. (to the guys: I had 20 days of prostate radiotherapy and this has effectively killed off the cancer cells [psa approaching zero on 2 consecutive tests]. Macmillan say that 50% of all men over 50yrs and 80% of all men over 80 will have some prostate cancer cells. With 3000 new MM cases diagnosed each year and half of these men, you guys can do the sums yourselves… Prostate cancer will kill you quicker than MM, and whilst it’s tricky to combine both treatments, it was in my case a necessity. So I think regular psa tests are essential).

    #138035

    peterl
    Participant

    Hello again Christine, Your latest post came through as I was submitting mine above, so obviously it can be largely ignored since you’ve decided upon your future course of treatment. Now that you’ve decided, can I say that I think you’ve totally made the right decision, and if our roles were reversed (and it was me with your decision), I wouldn’t hesitate to opt for an SCT, it seems to be completely the correct decision.

    Best of luck for your future MM treatments,

    Peter

    #138036

    christineh
    Participant

    Hi Peter

    Hope you are well and thank you so much for your very detailed post. I have to say that I found it very informative and did make me understand why I would get few replies. As you say, it’s all very individual (which is perhaps the most frustrating part!).

    Thank you also for your very kind words. I too wish you all the very best for the future – it sounds like you are being dealt a very unfair hand, what with myeloma and prostrate cancer; I hope your treatments continue to allow you long and uncomplicated periods of remission.

    Take care and thank you so much again,

    Christine

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